As Goku, Gohan, and Krillin battle against Ginyu, Jeice ultimately runs into Vegeta, who engages him in battle. Captain Ginyu wants to face Goku after Jeice alerts him of the threat. For the rest of his time, Jeice tags along with Captain Ginyu (at this point in Goku's body). After Jeice does some posing for a while with Ginyu, Goku arrives in Ginyu's body, still damaged. So Recoome, Burter, and Jeice all had the same power level? Despite this, they were easily outclassed by Goku, who had trained incredibly hard on the way to Namek. Jheece Strike DEF 142,565 . Being a red-skinned alien humanoid in appearance, Captain Ginyu best describes him as an extremely flamboyant and showy white-haired mutant. Angira Power Level 43,000. Nicknamed the "Red Magma", he often pairs with … Feb 10, 2019 - Jeice (ジース) is a member of the mercenary Ginyu Force squadron. Frieza is also shocked that Goku was able to beat them all so easily.His power level is 64,000 in the RPG video games Dragon Ball Z II: Gekishin Freeza and Dragon Ball Z: Super Saiya Densetsu. His Japanese name, Jīsu, is derivative of chīzu, or cheese. Frieza Force, Ginyu Force, Male, HERO, Support Type, PUR, Frieza Saga (Z), Jeice. The video game Dragon Ball Z: Sagas shows that his power level is 95,000, which is a combined power level of Burter and Jeice as Recoome is stated as having about the same power level and he appears in the game at 40,000. Jeice arrives along with Ginyu in front of Krillin and Gohan, who are surprised to see that Ginyu has switched bodies with Goku. I'd say 60.000 because he was par with Jeice. Ginyu said 60,000 would be enough to beat recoome and burter Blast ATK 122,375 . User Info: bvillebro. https://ultradragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Jeice?oldid=216174. It is unknown how they managed to bypass King Yemma and arrive at the planet, though King Kai implies that he may have given them permission to travel there in order to witness the strength Tien, Chiaotzu, and Yamcha had acquired through their extensive training. 87,000,000 Frieza expected the Ginyu Force to be able to fight Super Saiyan Goku in Hell, so they must have increased to be almost as powerful as Super Saiyan Goku when he fought Frieza. Jeice shown in a prison cell with fellow villains after being impaled. Recoome, Jeice, and Burter had a similar power level, stated to be 40,000 or above. For the rest of his time, Jeice tags along with Captain Ginyu (at this point in Goku's body). He is called Jheese in the Viz manga to reflect this pun. Power Level. Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. Despite this oddity, Ginyu is a very by-the-books soldier, strictly adhering to military guidelines and practices while expecting the same of his men. Tags; Equippable Items. This is what I've read. When Goku and Pikkon arrive, the likes of Frieza, King Cold, The Ginyu Force (excluding Captain Ginyu) and Super Perfect Cell were threatening and interrogating ogres in order to obtain a means of escape. Strike ATK 212,911 . Not willing to accept Vegeta's strength, Jeice continues to attack Vegeta, only to get pummeled. Blast DEF 96,852 . Dragon Ball Z: Sagas shows that his power level is 95,000, which is a combined power level of Jeice and Burter as Recoome is stated as having about the same power level and he appears in the game at 40,000. Jeice: 45,000 Burter: 42,500 Zenkai Increase. Krillin states that Jeice's ki is the same as Recoome. Dragon Ball Legends (Unofficial) Game Database. However, since Captain Ginyu stated that Goku would need a power level of roughly 60,000 to defeat the combined powers of Jeice and Burter, the game appears to be in error. As the series went on, several other characters who were stronger than them made their appearance. Aug 11, 2015 - This Pin was discovered by D | E | S \ G | N. Discover (and save!) Ultra Dragon Ball Wiki is a FANDOM Anime Community. jeice was below 60,000. Blast DEF 149,828 . Krillin states that Jeice's ki is the same as Recoome. Jeice fearfully leaves his friends behind for Vegeta to kill his incapacitated comrades. He considers Burter to be his best friend, and was able to talk his teammat… Jeice flees back to Frieza's spaceship in order to inform Captain Ginyu of the team's decimation. During the Namek Saga, Krillin states that both Burter and Jeice are as strong as Recoome. Because most characters' voices changed when FUNimation took over, Jeice's accent was changed from a Brummie accent to an Australian accent. In the battle against Jeice in the RPG video game Dragon Ball Z II: Gekishin Freeza, Jeice is at a maximum of 64,000. Jeice was defeated with a punch to the stomach. 5) At this point, Goku's power is supposed to be 3 Million, yet, for some reason, you put him below Vegeta and 3rd form Freeza and as strong as Rage Gohan. He is nicknamed the "Red Magma", he often pairs with Burter for combination attacks (an example being the Purple Comet Attack). It was revealed that Jeice is the youngest member and the last one to join the Ginyu Force. Crimson Inferno (Original Z dub). (Jeice landed a punch on him,but vegeta is bit stronger than him.) However, since Captain Ginyu stated that Goku would need a power level of roughly 60,000 to defeat the combined powers of Jeice and Burter, the game appears to be in error. [1] Contrary to this, the game, Dragon Ball Z: Sagas, places the total power level of him and Burter at 95,000. Main Ability. Jeice's character model in Raging Blast 2, A soldier similar to Jeice in King Cold's elite army, Jeice is confident that the Ginyu Force will easily obtain victory, Jeice angry that Guldo's death ruined the Ginyu Force's poses, Jeice, Burter, and Recoome are annoyed that their pose is incomplete without Guldo, Jeice watches the battle between Recoome and Vegeta, Jeice and Burter watch the battle between Vegeta and Recoome, Jeice confronts Goku after Recoome is easily defeated, Jeice is amazed by Goku's speed and strength, Jeice charges for the Purple Spiral Flash, The Red Comet Attack fails as both Burter and Jeice collide, Jeice is terrified after Burter is felled by Goku, Jeice and Ginyu try to pull off their poses without the rest of their team, Jeice and Ginyu's pose failing in an awkward moment, Jeice, along with other soldiers, are stunned when Ginyu erupts with rage, The Ginyu Force arrives on King Kai's planet, Jeice and Burter perform the Hurricane attack against Tien, The Ginyu Force is knocked into the Bloody Pond in Hell, The Ginyu Force attempt to escape from Hell, Jeice watches in shock as Frieza is defeated by Gohan. Battle Style; Ranged: Arts Cards Held; Blast. Magma Power-5 to own Strike Arts cost for 10 timer counts. Techniques and special abilities Burter charges a Full Power Energy Ball Strike DEF 95,888 . Jeice is by far the most level-headed member of the Ginyu Force, often ending up as the voice of reason between Guldo's bitterness, Recoome's larger-than-life showmanship, Burter's insecurities and Ginyu's strict military conduct. Jeice and the other Ginyu Force members tried to attack Goku simultaneously, but he defeats them all with ease and they fall into the blood pond. Contrary to this, the game, Dragon Ball Z: Sagas, places the total power level of him and Burter at 95,000. Jeice returned from Hell with the other villains to make a brief appearance in Dragon Ball GT when the inter-dimensional rift opened. Ginyu is a dedicated member of Freeza's forces, and seems to be a great leader to the Ginyu Force. Dragon Ball Net-Work Wiki is a FANDOM TV Community. Jeice (ジース Jīsu, Jheese) is an extremely flamboyant and showy white-haired mutant (as Captain Ginyu stated) member of the mercenary Ginyu Force squadron who is an alien humanoid in appearance apart from his red skin. After Jeice does some posing for a while with Ginyu, Goku arrives in Ginyu's body, still damaged. 2 Their Headquarters. Jeice (ジース, Jīsu, Jheese) is an extremely flamboyant and showy white-haired mutant (as Captain Ginyu stated) who appears human apart from his red skin. Krillin states that Jeice's ki is the same as Recoome. Dragon Ball Legends (Unofficial) Game Database. Blast ATK 226,845 . Jeice (ジース Jīsu, Jheese) is an extremely flamboyant and showy white-haired mutant (as Captain Ginyu stated) member of the mercenary Ginyu Force squadron who is an alien humanoid in appearance apart from his red skin. When Pikkon spins around creating a tornado-esque attack, he creates a whirlpool and the Ginyu Force is lifted into the air and they all fall into a mountain of needles, impaling them. Jeice Solos. Critical: 1,326: Ki Restore Speed: 2,343: Character Info. After Recoome defeats Vegeta, Jeice and Burter allow him to have fun with Gohan and Krillin as well. His Japanese name, Jīsu, is derivative of chīzu, or "cheese". Tags; Overview. He often fights alongside Butta. Like Burter, he lost the initial Rock-Paper-Scissors contest with Recoome and didn't get to fight either Gohan, Krillin or Vegeta. Shortly afterward, they all end up in a prison cell. HP 1,566,579. Blast. HakuMan111386 5 years ago #1. In another episode, Jeice also viewed the battle between Goku and Kid Buu amongst fellow villains in the Kid Buu Saga. Jeice arrives along with Ginyu in front of Krillin and Gohan, who are surprised to see that Ginyu has switched bodies with Goku. This time is Nail vs Jeice and Same Power Level Battle. In the RPG game, Legend of the Super Saiyan, Burter's power level is at a maximum of 62,000. Strike ATK 108,513 . Jeice (DBL14-08E) Character Card Details. Jeice, with the other villains, in line to return to Hell by King Yemma. Jeice one of stronger members of the Ginyu Force is neither super fast or super powerful. Captain Ginyu implies that he is angry at Jeice for running away, and he treats him rather harshly as a result. Saiyan Saga Oozaru Vegeta vs Recoome, Jeice, and Burter. As they quickly trade blows in Frieza's ship and Jeice manages to ram Vegeta into a ventilation shaft, he thinks he's gained the upper hand. Unique Ability. Jeice (ジース Jīsu, Jheese) is an extremely flamboyant and showy white-haired mutant (as Captain Ginyu stated) member of the mercenary Ginyu Force squadron who is an alien humanoid in appearance apart from his red skin. In the RPG game, Legend of the Super Saiyan, in the battle against Jeice, he is at a maximum of 64,000. He legitimately considered the rest of his team as close friends (with the exception of Guldo) and was deeply devastated by their defeats. Zarbon Power Level 23,000 (30,000 Monster From) Salza is the most powerful if you go by logic. He's eventually killed by Vegeta. Battle Style; Support: Arts Cards Held ; Blast. Jheese (or Jeice in the Funimation dub) is one of the Ginyu Special Force who work for Freeza and an antagonist of the Namek Saga. Jeice Power Level Ranges from 40,000-95,000 depending on source. Power Level. In Legend of the Super Saiyan, he is at a maximum of 63,000. However, after Guldo's death, he and Burter play to see who will get to take on the two Earthlings and finish what Guldo started. Jeice returns for a brief cameo in the movie Dragon Ball Z: Fusion Reborn, along with Burter and Recoome. For example, Tien's power level during the Trunks Saga will be around 70,000 and will … He cares about his soldiers and was deeply upset when all of them died, even asking for a moment to grieve. Tagoma Edit Tagoma was stated to have power similar to Zarbon and Dodoria during the time of the Frieza Saga, in which Zarbon's is stated to be somewhere around 23,000 and Dodoria's power level is listed at 22,000 in Daizenshuu 7 . Frieza Force, Ginyu Force, Male, EXTREME, Ranged Type, RED, Frieza Saga (Z), Jeice. Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. They all run away after Gohan defeats Frieza with one punch. Critical: 935: Ki Restore Speed: 2,110: Character Info. When the battle between Captain Ginyu and Goku commences, Jeice remains on the sidelines as a spectator, apart from one instance when he interferes, stepping in and trying to help Ginyu, firing a beam at Goku while Ginyu grabbed him. Nicknamed the "Red Magma", he often pairs with Burter for combination attacks. Ginyu (in Goku's body) asks Jeice to read his power level on the scouter, thinking it will be 180,000, but only goes to 23,000, because of Ginyu not being able to use all of Goku's power. Ginyu (in Goku's body) asks Jeice to read his power level on the scouter, thinking it will be 180,000, but only goes to 23,000, Ginyu not being able to use all of Goku's power. Coincidentally, if you listen to Chi-Chi's commentary in. Posted by u/[deleted] 4 years ago. After landing on Namek and posing for Frieza, Jeice and the rest of the Ginyu Force find Vegeta, Krillin and Gohan trying to get Vegeta's wish of immortality. I'd put Reecome at 51,000, Jeice at 49,000 and Burter at 48,000 4) Gohan and Krillin suddenly get 5 times stronger for no reason, and this is alredy after Guru unlocked their powers. Nicknamed the "Red Magma", he often pairs with Burter for combination attacks. EX Jeice RED is a budget Fighter provided to all players courtesy of the Ginyu Force Special event,. The video game Dragon Ball Z: Sagas shows that his power level is 95,000, it is a combined power level of Burter and Jeice as Recoome is stated as having about the same power level and he appears in the game at 40,000. Techniques and special abilities In another instance exclusive to the anime, he and the rest of the deceased Ginyu Force members (minus Captain Ginyu himself, due to still being alive and trapped in the body of a frog) travel to King Kai's Planet and square off against the Z Warriors who were training there. https://dragonballnetwork.fandom.com/wiki/Jeice?oldid=5092. His Japanese name, Jīsu, is derivative of chīzu, or cheese. Master Roshi-139 Chi Chi-80 Ox King-900 Dr.Brief-12 Mrs. Brief-6 Oolong-10 Puar-10 Scrach-1.2 Jeice (DBL01-28H) Character Card Details. He and Burter jump in to kill Goku, but the Saiyan proves more powerful than they had anticipated. Jeice begs for his life before being executed and after he is eliminated, Goku disapproves of Vegeta's harsh behavior, but Vegeta quickly reciprocates by reminding Goku why his conscience and emotions are a weakness. Red Magma He is called Jheese in the Viz manga to reflect this pun. He was eventually sent back with all the rest of the villains after being defeated. Jeice teams up with Burter again, though both are blasted into Hell by Tien Shinhan. Vegeta continues to toy with him before revealing to him how his strength has increased substantially. After Goku arrives and defeats Recoome with a single blow and revives Gohan, Krillin and Vegeta using Senzu Beans, Jeice is not impressed with his scouter's power reading of 5,000 for Goku. Will until next time, Series of Same Power Level Battle. Vegeta : 135,000 Gohan: 27,000 Krillin: 24,500 Goku VS Ginyu. Blast. After Goku constantly dodges Jeice and Burter's attack, he defeats Burter as well, knocking him unconscious. In the game, Dragon Ball Z: Sagas however, it says his power level is 75,000 but this is untrue because Captain Ginyu said Goku has to be round 60,000 to have been able to have defeated Burter and Jeice. During the Battle of Namek, Krillin states that Jeice's ki is the same as Recoome's who had a power level higher than Vegeta's 30,000.In the Other World Saga Jeice appears to have gotten much stronger, as Goku has to power up in order to deal with him together with Burter, Recoome and Guldo. Form taken after Jeice accidentally knocked the Future Warrior in the path of Ginyu's Body Change. For all his boasting, Jeice is actually quite cowardly when faced with a stronger threat such as Goku. This results in Captain Ginyu releasing Goku from his grip and warning Jeice never to meddle again while he is in combat, or he will get into deep trouble. Vegeta beat Dodoria with a PL of 24,000 easily. While the original ser… Instead, Jeice is a more balanced combination of strength and speed, which makes him very dangerous. After Jeice does some posing for a while with Ginyu, Goku arrives in Ginyu's body, still dama… Jeice has a similar power level to Recoome, who beat Vegeta convincingly. When reading Vegeta's power level, Jeice's scouter goes haywire and he breaks it out of frustration. your own Pins on Pinterest Requirements: 5 timer counts must elapse. HP 2,288,612. User Info: HakuMan111386. In a filler episode when Goku is in the Other World, Grand Kai informs him that Frieza and Super Perfect Cell have teamed up and that they'd all been trying to escape from Hell. Category Gaming; Show more Show … Close. Their Captain, Ginyu, was known to be at the power level of 120,000. He is the only one of average height, and had red skin, long white hair, and speaks with a Scottish accent, which he changes for an Australian accent once FUNimation takes over for voice acting in Episode 54. According to Krillin, he and Burter are about equal in strength to Recoome, which is 40,000. In Famicom's video game Dragon Ball Z II: Gekishin Freeza, his battle point is 68,000. Archived. Vegeta then brutally attacks, propelling Jeice into midair and relentlessly destroying him with the Genocide Breaker directly aimed at his face. Burter convinces him further that Goku just got lucky since Recoome let his guard down. A strong showman, Ginyu has a flare for dramatic posing in everything he does, a practice he claims is done to boost the morale of his troops. In the english dub, Jeice's name is a pun on Juice. Before Ginyu takes the Dragon Balls to Frieza's spaceship, Jeice, Recoome, Guldo, and Burter do Rock-Paper-Scissors to decide who gets to kills who. 11. 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